Talk:Code Piruluk VERMILION/@comment-25090143-20160717084436/@comment-25090143-20160718090837

I see. That's fair. Thank you for sharing your opinion

But from my point of view, getting into APEX with Vermil is almost impposible against level <4 decks if that's still a thing. And from what you said, I don't feel like APEX's exceed + banish should be use offensively most of the time as it will give your opponent an ener to play with and should rather be used defensively.

I don't feel like SR black SIGNIs are worth a lot of space(maybe Hellboros), and getting key cards in the trash shouldn't be that hard with a few copies of ALCA, SC and JV. I don't feel like running a lot of black will be any good in the first place because black spells are not as effective as blue's as of currently.

For the sake of argument, I did like to point out that Piruluk will get new level 2 which can use either black or blue ener to pay for her cost, and already have Pi for level 3 and there's also Four Color Miasma too.

What I'm seeing the potential of APEX right now is the FREEZE THROUGH + FREEZE build, as APEX's Exceed can be use in Attack Phase, you can just Exceed 2 and down freeze everything and follow up with  FREEZE THROUGH for the finish. As I stated before, black spells as of currently does not prove to be as useful compare to what blue spell can offer.

TL;DR current black support for Piruluk doesn't seems to be good enough at the moment. For me at least.