Quackciel

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Black Valk isn't neccesarilly bad; just really doesn't synergize with Umuru. 

No, I'm dead inside.

Still not really worth space even in Tawil in my opinion. She doesn't really have a reliable way to spam superior call unlike Chaos.

Tawil would use her @1 for the trash fueling imo. 

>Tawil doesn't have a way to spam superior call

>Nakirun

>Michael

>Haniel searching Michael

preety spammable.

I'm talking about her constant, not her action.

Ah, makes sense.

also it's On-Play and not Action but w/e

My point about Black Valk was that the On-Play would be really useful for Tawil @1 copy so ye

Also, considering that Tawil 6 is better than Tawil 5 in general, that extra 3 mill early game isn't that necessary.
From play testing, most of the time you milling early you will mostly get 1 angel(or 2 depending on the luck) and the combination of either servant or spell, which will hurts her more in the late game. 

I see.

We were talking twilight Tawil here no? read: Tawil 5 with black Angels @1-2 copies or so as techs

Even at Tawil 6, filling the drop zone if your opponent managed to live for 2-3 turns (which in nowaday's late game with Spinner, APEXLORD and etc being defensive for you, will be considerably common) after you reaching level 6, you will run out of things in your trash to do things with, and Black Valk can help you in that regard. It won't happen most of the time, but that's why she's a tech. Plus, again, Nakirun and things to get her out exists.

Also Black Valk would be your ideal target via Michael when you don't have Nakiruns in deck anymore.

Edit: also rip login much?

Twilight Tawil(angel build) actually was never seen in play, or I never saw one, hence I put in "maybe" in the original post. 

I see. Your point is fair enough, however depending on the support I don't feel like playing twilight Tawil for now, 1 Valk does sound okay.
Though the last time I build a Tawil deck, I rarely have burst space left especially that I run Hellboros and a few AW*.

I thought you're not up so I didn't feel like logging in because, well, public computer.

I've noticed lol. I expected to see builds running at least 1 copies of Black Valk and/or Michael Fallen, but w/e.

Really? When I tried building Tawil I found that I had too little lifebursts that I kept Wish Crisis which I planned to remove in the deck lol. This is non-Tawil 6 doe so w/e

>not up

It's like 10 PM here atm doe :/

And tbh my sleeping schedule is... Messed up. My sleeping time nowadays is 5 AM at least pwp

>school in 3 days

Halp

Well. I thought you were up to something else because your last activity was like 3 hours ago.

Sleep while you can, you will regret otherwise.

Universe now. Halp.

Lol that's because the wiki itself wasn't active for like 3 hours :P

Lol it's too late. No one can stop my sleeping schedule to go even more out of control, until it makes a whole round since I sleep 1 hour later each day

Rip

I bet 50(future)$ that your future-self will be able to.

Vermilion? What's that? The only Piruluk deck atm is APEX :P

And tbh FREEZE THROUGH should be used only in Remember, CrossPiru and a focused 2-stop deck imo

Spinner was preety terrible from the moment she was released lol, just cheezy

I've seen a couple Iona decks top. I'm taking that as a good sign for Iona AW.dek

Aiyai in general atm is preety meh tbf

Can't say about Mirurun. Her support was quality but I couldn't see them working together to god tier level

With Chalk, the only "meta viable" Umuru will be AW + Fallen Angels lol

Right now I'm proxying Ancient Wave with Chaos Umr. There's ener problems right now though, hopefully I can find space to run Hasur and fix it.

And yes, I do think that Chalk will be better than Chaos but testing is still needed since her Action is just as viable.

EDIT: I meant Vermillion -> APEX.

Hastur was great as a solution to the ener problem lol

Trashing > Reviving imo. Trashing gives you a way to deny your opponent of their ener, which can act as a finisher.

Without consistency in Umr's [Action], it's actually very hard to keep the board to your advantage. When your board is bad, you still lose regardless. Hence making both skill viable in a way and is debateable.

And especially if you play Ultim's based-deck, spaming Hastur is a lot harder.

Tbh, as long as you have 3 SIGNI beatersticks you'd be fine against an empty field. Unless your opponent runs something like AnSap or Kuma.

That's true.

Among the new Mirurun support, Be is mildly annoying at 1 copy on the field, but devastating only when in 2-3 copies on the field. Steel Spell Run is somewhat redundant as Mirurun Tico does the same thing for exceed 2, and hence, ends up much cheaper, given the encore and grow costs for each. (Plus the fact that mirror can allow anohter use of Tico's Exceed2 for 1 blue)

Footnote : I actually mildly recommend trying out mind mines here. I personally find that it sets up Miru-5 pretty hard for incredibly cheap regarding Be plays. One of the few decks I'd run Oversalvage in, too. 

Still testing. I've been away for a while. I need to see if my data is still relevant after certain issues.

I agree with you on the apex path, it's still lambda or lambda-apex that's topping. So far there were 3-5 Spinner decks that have topped and the thing they had in common was that they use Northern Seven and baboon... Bahamut is also there. Haven't seen an eldora use spinner, yet I was hoping she'd be the one who will be more successful in using her... I've only seen 2 Ancient Iona topped so far (I like the new ancient iona) and the rest were either hybrid white or pure yuki. Aiyai has seen tops recently they ran retribution in all deck builds I saw and it was either no Beigoma or with at least 3 beigoma but they do not run the unli combo partner. Before Aiyai's dual resona, none of them ran L4 signis or if they do it was only squid. They relied on Freefall + Swingride. I have no idea about the rest...

APEX-Lambda/Lambda is apparently the only Piruluk deck people feel like using now; perhaps VERMILION did not provide enough fun (or wins) for people to actually use her. VERMILION was designed with the best intentions in mind. To be fair, it would have been difficult to balance, and even more difficult to play consistently as it is now, due to multiple distinct lines of play each turn (generally having drastically different outcomes, as opposed to decks like Midoriko or Tama, which attempt a consistent strategy every turn).

I expected blue decks in general to make the best use of Spinner, due to Blue being able to dig through the deck for Level 5 SIGNI. I'd like to see Northern Seven Piruluk/Eldora top once or twice.

I did not expect Aiyai to top consistently, as Aiyai relies on pressuring the opponent every turn for around 1-3 turns before the attempted lethal can work, and most decks tend to work around or outrun Aiyai already. What I did expect was Retribution being used as a 'finisher' of sorts, since Ener does not seem to be a constant problem for Aiyai.

I remember seeing a Piru/Spinner deck somewhere that topped.. just not sure if he/she ran northern seven.... Haven't seen any Eldora's though.

Well... Speak of the devil...  http://wixooshanayosan.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-1618.html

@Yuu-tan Let's put away LambdAPEX for a sec and look at Aiyai.

Aiyai is... Not topping consistently. Not in twitter anyway.

Aiyai is topping mostly thanks to the law of large numbers, and perhaps due to people not expecting to play against Aiyai, which could be said for any rogue deck that tops.

2 more Aiyai's showed up today... 1 won first the other 4th.. This time they went full beyblade route and both had Identical builds with only very minor changes.

https://twitter.com/YS_KYOTO

http://wixooshanayosan.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-1619.html

not sure if both were the same person

@Yuu-tan I've found 2 Aiyai that topped in WIXOSS party among NiKai, Mido, etc.

Of those the two were the ones that Grim posted. Weren't those two around for a while now? Or do they just look the same to the ones I found?

Anyway. Wixoss best TCG.
Not argueable(super bias). Don't even know why people are playing other TCG(accept maybe Magic).

Just feel like dropping it here because last tourney held in my country has around only 20-ish participant while in the other hand, Gearfight!! Sancguard has like 1000-ish participant if it's big tourneys.

Lol so much of this

I tried preaching to non-believers, didn't work :P

Sanc Guard is ded now in VG lol

Lucky for you Quack... From Where I live, we only had 4-6 who joined..

You at least have 6 p_p

We have more than 30! HA!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqSCBS4VIAAV5Lo.jpg:large

Aiyai 4th place and a lot of players used her on world champs... It's happening!!!!

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I bought 16 copies early. Rolling in dough now.

Please give me one. 

Blame the metagame.

Daihouka was already valuable early on, so I reserved my copies early.

Why don't you proxy for casuals instead?

What's the point in playing proxy cards if you're going to play in real life? x(
(Says who proxy half of his deck before.)

Assuming you play Umr, Daihouka will only be necessary at 1 copy maximum. Ulith sometimes runs 4 to profit off Enigma Aura (2x Daihouka + Enigma Aura = +3 LC, +4 Hand at end of turn for 2 Black and no field, as well as a near-guaranteed LC poke at opponent), but Umr can't do that.

Um, I am building many decks irl, namely Piruluk and Mirurun, right now my Piruluk needs only another copy of Daihouka to be set in stone, while I think I might need to run at least 2 in Mirurun.

But I guess I will just switch Daihouka from Piru to Mirurun when I want to play her.

As for Umr, I'm planning to run 2 copies if the new lv.4 from Selector Pack Vol.2 didn't do her job good enough.

To be fair, Piruluk doesn't need Daihouka to be functional. You still like her, but you know.

If we're talking about the old Spell Piru with the new ban-list, I feel like Daihouka is a must(because AMS is not as reliable anymore, AP banishing wise). With that, it also means that Piruluk needs Daihouka to be functional* in some sense.

Piruluk plays more consistently with Daihouka in my opinion, and Mirurun needs Daihouka to even compete. Good observation.

@Duck AMS was never that reliable tbf

And my point with Daihouka was whether the deck is "playable" or not so ye. Mirurun aside, Piruluk at least has Gurehozame + HTR (which isn't usable with Daihouka) for offense.

@Yuu-tan Thanks.

@Sushi I agree. But she's even less reliable now with the CL restricted.

lol fair enough

Yeah yeah.

>Not doing anime/WIXOSS

What are you doing with your life? *shot*

I do watch anime still, but very dissapoint in most anime as of late.

I'm just back at WIXOSS a few days ago, and there's still a lot for me to catch up. Especially when my mind got blown off by UmrTawilUt'ulls deck(and mindset / decision making).

Though I think my deck building skill is still intact.

Fair enuff.

lol

I have a problem with my dorm's internet right now so my labtop can't access internet.
Usually I use my phone for internet and stuff but apparently it was too old to download Skype application.

And usually when I get internet on my labtop, I just download anime and watch YouTube.

I'm a little bit busy but not as much as when I have regular studies(right now I'm having summer class).

I will try to open Skype if I do remember next time.

Oh, no worries. Was just curious cause I haven't seen you around for quite a while. My phone is also too old to install skype, so I only ever use it on my laptop.

Up until about 1-2 weeks ago, I was pretty busy.

The easiest way to spot me if I were busy or not is if I'm posting some stuff on the wiki. If I post at least 1 thing, it's likely that I am not busy(or not as busy) for at least a few days.

Ok noted.

... I feel like playing for some reason.

I'll make room then.

• poke*

• sips more coffee*

.... *yawn*... Have... to... hang... in..... *falls down on desk*

Good luck with that. I'm on the way back after playing for a wedding. ETA is around 30-45 minutes, if the traffic today holds.

• sleeps for 6 hours*

• has to go to debate*

• is not sleepy whatsoever*

... I'm scared of myself p_p

Sorry...

Yesterday and today I got an class so I am not in the mood to catches up to the WX10 stuff....
Well I did build the AMServant Piruruk deck but haven't finish the beta-phase yet.

I think we won't be able to play for a while since my Mayu(Maya) class will start giving assignment from tomorrow onwards as well as Color, Compostion and Tone class.

The first 2 weeks I'm as busy as it could be, can't imagine what will happen to me from this week onwards.

Eh, okay then.

Now I'm free from you Sushi.
No Sushi can hold me.

Back to work. Much Sad. Such assignment.

Much sad as well.

L-let me sleep please.

I always didn't sleep on time because I want to battoru but in the end I didn't get to...
Well I might play a game after finish doing the wikia stuff.

mk I have a room up if you feel like battoruing

Sorry for not telling you anything, I woke up late this morning so I have to go straight to the class. > _>

Now, it's 8 hours. Are you up?

>comment was posted last night right when I had to sleep

• has to go school*.

.. I think just making this thing work in thi sweekend would work the best p_p

Actually our time matches right now but I need to get some sleep soon. Or I will die because I don't get enough sleep. 

Just so you know, Drewbert is having his room up right now.

• sees profile*

• is at GMT -7*

... So we have a whole 12 hour difference.

So it's either when I wake up or before I sleep of which I'm not avilable in both during weekdays.

... Let's just make this work this weekend.